04/07/09 San Diego, California “People in this country don’t realize how bad things can be,” said Richard Russell on Saturday night.
“I lived through the Great Depression. I remember people standing in bread lines. It was hard to get a job, any job, back then. But now, you see the restaurants are still full. People are still spending money. They may be worried and they may be beginning to save, but there’s no sense of urgency. And there’s a rally on Wall Street. You know, every bear market produces a rally. You can expect the market to retrace its steps by one- to two-thirds.
“And every bear market has a surprise. I think the surprise is that this is going to be a lot worse than people expect.”
Richard Russell is 84. He’s been writing his investment newsletter, Dow Theory Letters, for 50 years. This weekend a group of his admirers, including your editor, came together to say thanks.
There are a lot of people with opinions on the economy and the stock market. You can hardly turn on your computer without getting dozens of them. But there are not many opinions with the depth of experience and knowledge behind them as those of Richard Russell. He’s been studying “the language of the markets” for more than half a century. Though no one ever fully masters the language of the market, Richard can at least carry on a conversation with it.
“The primary trend is down,” says he. In the end, he continues, no matter what Obama and Bernanke do, the primary trend will have its way. The bear market will continue until it “has fully expressed itself.”
What does that mean? We don’t know…and no one else does either. But if this market has something to say, it’s probably something it’s wanted to get off its mind for a long time. And our guess is it’s not a message that people are going to want to hear.
Richard is probably right. After so many years of watching markets, he’s developed an instinct for what is really going on. This is going to be worse than people expect, he says. Because despite all the whining and bellyaching in the press, most people still do not expect the worst. Over the last quarter century, they’ve learned to look for bottoms…and buy. Every time it looked like real trouble was coming, the Fed cut rates…and soon, it was off to the races again. Now, they’re afraid of missing this opportunity for another boom.
But Richard is old enough to be able to look back much further than a quarter of a century. He’s seen the Great Depression…WWII…the bear market and stagflation of the ’70s. He knows that sometimes it pays to be extra cautious. “Cash and gold,” says Richard, are the only investments you should be holding now; we’re a long way from the bottom.
One of the reasons we think that is because so many people are looking for the bottom. “Individual Investors Pile Into Citi,” says a headline from last week
“The old Wall Street adage about the dangers of catching a falling knife doesn’t seem to be scaring individual investors away from Citigroup Inc.
“Some discount-brokerage firms report a surge of individual, or retail, investors buying shares of Citigroup during the past five months, amid the New York bank’s stock-price slide.”
These investors think they see an opportunity. What we see is a trap.
The Dow rose again on Friday. Apparently, this is the rally we’ve expected since November. It could take the Dow back to 10,000 or so – before collapsing on the heads of naïve investors.
Remember, this is a depression, not a recession. And thanks to determined government action, it is on its way to becoming a Great Depression. In a depression, you can’t revive the old economy. It needs structural change – eliminating the mistakes of the previous bubble period – and building new businesses with new ways of doing things. “Creative Destruction” Schumpeter called it. Things that don’t work need to be destroyed…so that things that do work can make use of the capital more efficiently.
“What would you do if you were suddenly in a position of power in the United States?” asked one of crowd at Saturday night’s dinner.
“Nothing,” replied Richard. “I’d do nothing. I’d let it happen. I’d let the bear market do its work.”
Amen, brother.
More news from Addison and Ian in Baltimore:
“Another industry built on credit-fueled consumption, and thus, likely to get leveled during the great deleveraging, is looking a little gluttonous right about now,” writes Addison in today’s issue of The 5 Min. Forecast.
“U.S. restaurant expansion over the past 20 years has vastly outpaced population growth.”
“Since 1990, the number of bars and restaurants in the U.S. has grown 49%, to over 537,000. The American population has grown only 23% in that period,” Addison continues.
“Growth in the restaurant industry has even outpaced the U.S.’s appetite for squandering money. According to the National Restaurant Association, in 1985 Americans spent around 40 cents of every “food dollar” in restaurants. Today, we’re closer to 48 cents on the dollar, a 20% bump.
“Back in the 1950′s, the average Joe spent just 25 cents of his ‘food dollar’ in restaurants. If we’re to return to anything even resembling a post-Depression, post-War, way of life… tens of thousands of restaurants will go under.”
Each weekday, Ian and Addison bring readers the The 5 Min Forecast, an executive series e-letter that provides a quick and dirty analysis of daily economic and financial developments – in five minutes or less.
And back to Bill with more thoughts:
Many old friends were at Saturday’s dinner. Analysts, writers, opinion mongers, subscribers. One fellow said he had been reading Richard Russell for the last 30 years.
“I figured I probably paid Richard more than $60,000 in subscription fees over that period,” he explained. “But it was the best investment I ever made. He helped me turn a few bucks into $30 million.”
“Well, what do YOU think?” asked a local reporter, interviewing your editor at the Richard Russell dinner.
“I agree with Richard,” we explained. “Let the free market do its work.”
“But aren’t you afraid that the banking system will collapse and that millions of people will be out of work?” came the follow-up question. “Are you saying that the government shouldn’t even try to make sure that doesn’t happen?”
“Maybe the government should make sure there are enough parking places. It should probably make sure the grass is cut at Arlington Cemetery. But there’s no way it can do a better job of getting people what they want than they will do themselves. Even in a depression.
“Here’s our new motto at The Daily Reckoning. You’re going to be the first to report it in the press. And when historians finally get around to discovering our oeuvre, they’re going to credit your paper as the first to publish it. Are you ready? Here it is:
“The free market rarely takes you where you wanted to go…but it always takes you where you ought to be.
“There…we think that pretty much says it all, no?”
Rick Rule was there too. Rick provides finance capital to the mining sector – among other things. We asked him what he thought of the recent run-up in stock prices.
“I’m a lender, mostly. And as a lender, I’m primarily interested in the credit quality of the people I lend to. Am I lending now? No.”
Rick explains that stock prices in the mining sector are, generally, too high. Investors are betting that they go higher. That’s a bet a speculator may want to make, but not a lender. And it’s that kind of speculation that got people in trouble in the first place. Homeowners bet that their houses would go up in price. So did their lenders…and their lender’s lenders. They were so sure they were going to make speculative gains they forgot to pay attention to the quality of their credits.
But a rally is underway…and our guess it will destroy both the bulls and the bears.
The bulls will buy stocks believing that we have another bull market on our hands. After having lost 50% of their money since 2007, they’ll lose another 20% – 30% when this rally collapses.
The bears, meanwhile, are convinced that there is worse to come. They think the stimulus spending programs will cause inflation. So they’re buying gold and commodity stocks – sure that when inflation comes, it will cause mining and oil stocks to soar. Maybe it will – eventually. But the first big move will probably be down. They, too, will lose big.
That could be the big surprise of this depression. It will kill the stock market bulls when the bear market rally collapses…then it will kill the stock market bears when the mining and commodity stocks collapse…and finally, it will wipe out the middle-class savers when inflation increases and the dollar collapses.
Until tomorrow,
Bill Bonner
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This is why any portfolio should include physical stores of whiskey and tobacco along with the obvious physical holding of gold and silver coin. The cash is for contracts due. Bravo, Mr Bonner!
We must remember that during the last “great depression” there was no, “unemployment insurance” and no Social Security protection for older Americans (and disabled etc.). This has tended to “mitigate” the more dire circumstances of today’s unemployed and elderly retirees. I remember something like “Relief” payments back then which were tiny but did help in a minuscle way.
This time we will have to go a long way before the underlying mitigating economic forces such as the “social safety net” becomes un-operative. Let’s just hope we will not get there. Though I’ve been very , very pessimistic about this economy since the early nineties…
Unless we allow the “too big to fail” to fail, we will wallow in the mud of economic mediocrity and reward those who failed over those who daily struggle to just keep their chins above water.
I’m amazed at the statisticians that wish to glaze over the publics’ eyes on how things are better than they seem…Have they gone “shopping” for their families lately??
A case in point in MIchael Mandel of Business Week….April 3, 2009. Families are hurting big time with the escalation in food prices…which, how convenient, are not included in the general CPI..numbers…..Hoodini Economics…that’s what I call it!
the present stock market rally is a chimera built upon ignorance and desperation…..i predicted in 2008 (and have blogs to prove it) that the market needed to go to 3000-5000 and was duly shocked to see bonner and others echo (quite independently i am sure
) that thought….
the ignorance (and stupidity) fueling the stock rise is based upon the pollyanna notion that the american icarus can rescue the economy and that he can do so with trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see….the g20 claptrap last week was enough to gag the entire central valley of california but it made people feel that the worst is behind us….bad investment and capital destruction caused the mess and more debt will not cure it – especially when the debt represents more mal-investment if you can call pork investment….
the desperation stems from the fact that no one wants sub-1 percent returns by staying in cash, government paper, etc. this is why gold was rising until the treasury crushed it last week….the us government is eye ball deep in market manipulation – especially of gold since it is an alternate to currency and government debt and directly influences interest rates…..
when are people going to wake up to the commercial real estate debacle to be buried under the rug by the press? as more bad news surfaces the party will crash.
no, the bear rally is built on fumes and fantasy and when the nincompoops realize that peter pan is a fantasy then they will be facing another year of devastating losses as the hot air escapes in a frenzy….
pull out your old 78s for a rousing chorus of happy days are here again…
Russell’s Quote: “But now, you see the restaurants are still full. People are still spending money. They may be worried and they may be beginning to save, but there’s no sense of urgency.”
I can vouch for this. On several recent weekends, I had the unfortunate duty of driving my wife to the local shopping malls here (central eastern PA); Becuase of the crowds Russell mentions, it typically took me more than ten minutes just to locate a parking space. Restaurant parking lots were parked as densely as the malls. I see two possibilities: Either this “depression” is crystallizing very locally, in places like CA, NV, FL, AZ, ya know, all the usual suspects, or this economic thing ain’t happening. The financial press, including Bonner, can utter jeremiads all they want but until the retail outlets and restaurants are ghost towns on a Sunday afternoon I’ll maintain my doubts. Till then all of this press chatter is merely coverage of a “phony war.”
Also quoth Mr. Bonner: “Things that don’t work need to be destroyed…so that things that do work can make use of the capital more efficiently.” and of course the new motto: ““The free market rarely takes you where you wanted to go…but it always takes you where you ought to be.”
These statements testify to why we have no free market. The economic sector that time and again doesn’t work, that is farthest from using capital efficiently, is the government. Fat chance we have of seeing governments destroyed…But in a truly free market, that’s what ought to be…
i don’t see a phony war when congress authorizes 787 billion usd for “emergency” spending on top of 850 billion usd passed for tarp in the previous year and then 1.150 trillion usd for buying worthless assets….plus a multi-trillion usd deficit….that is quite a phony war….(not that the government is not lying but someone sure is raising a ruckus if he is lying)
even during the great depression the majority of people had jobs….it’s too bad that alphabet doesn’t read the unemployment numbers which show chronic high levels of unemployment claims and the job loss reports showing massive net job losses for several months….those folks don’t make it to the mall and the restaurants…
and if you haven’t looked at the dow in the past 6 months and not noticed a problem, then someone has a problem with the mentality of “if it doesn’t affect me then it must not be a problem.”
nice…really nice.
Moderator: Do this board work at all?
Sorry Mr. Bonn,
I responded twice to your comments since April 7 but this idiotic format for whatever reason won’t post my submission and I’m not going to modify it…I see no need…obviously DR’s computers are programmed to think otherwise…