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		<title>By: Lost &#38; Found</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/the-rich-are-taking-a-wailing/#comment-20841</link>
		<dc:creator>Lost &#38; Found</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JRod-

well, I did read his Empire of Debt only last week but there were only about 10 pages worth reading out of about 380 or so (thank God, I didn&#039;t have to pay for it). I prefer reading his Daily Reckonings, though, as they are not as dry as a fart on a cracker, as his books obviously are, it seems.
And, by the way, I would not have a hard time imagining anything when it comes to financial relationships between two-legged animals. I have already seen lots and lots of horses puking (though they have four legs, I know), if you know what I mean, and I have seen them puking in front of lots and lots of pharmacies, even, too. If you know what I mean, too. Cheers.</description>
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<p>well, I did read his Empire of Debt only last week but there were only about 10 pages worth reading out of about 380 or so (thank God, I didn&#8217;t have to pay for it). I prefer reading his Daily Reckonings, though, as they are not as dry as a fart on a cracker, as his books obviously are, it seems.<br />
And, by the way, I would not have a hard time imagining anything when it comes to financial relationships between two-legged animals. I have already seen lots and lots of horses puking (though they have four legs, I know), if you know what I mean, and I have seen them puking in front of lots and lots of pharmacies, even, too. If you know what I mean, too. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: sierra</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/the-rich-are-taking-a-wailing/#comment-20813</link>
		<dc:creator>sierra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx Bill B. for another good column.
LaGirl is right; everything the &quot;common person&quot; touches is terribly inflated regardless of the &quot;official&quot; inflation  reports of the financial media.  I find myself spending $20 bills like $5 bills five years ago....
As far as &quot;savings&quot; rate increasing; it is also a chimera....if it&#039;s &quot;....up 5%&quot; then it only means that the public is spending 5% less in consumption...and in an economy that lives on 70%+ consumption to motivate it, don&#039;t hold your breath!!

The &quot;...center of financial power&quot; is also correct...that&#039;s why we have two wars of choice to control the spigot (or attempt to) of the most precious commodity of the ages (present times of course), oil.  Our dollar is vulnerable as the &quot;currency of last resort&quot; so we must protect our currency....many countries want to (some are already doing so) get off the, &quot;....dollar oil commodity pricing.

To go forward from here and think we can reproduce what happened in the early 21st century in finance is to build another bubble and suffer its collapse which will be much worse than this one as all the past ones have been....an escalation of loss.
Something else must be visualized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx Bill B. for another good column.<br />
LaGirl is right; everything the &#8220;common person&#8221; touches is terribly inflated regardless of the &#8220;official&#8221; inflation  reports of the financial media.  I find myself spending $20 bills like $5 bills five years ago&#8230;.<br />
As far as &#8220;savings&#8221; rate increasing; it is also a chimera&#8230;.if it&#8217;s &#8220;&#8230;.up 5%&#8221; then it only means that the public is spending 5% less in consumption&#8230;and in an economy that lives on 70%+ consumption to motivate it, don&#8217;t hold your breath!!</p>
<p>The &#8220;&#8230;center of financial power&#8221; is also correct&#8230;that&#8217;s why we have two wars of choice to control the spigot (or attempt to) of the most precious commodity of the ages (present times of course), oil.  Our dollar is vulnerable as the &#8220;currency of last resort&#8221; so we must protect our currency&#8230;.many countries want to (some are already doing so) get off the, &#8220;&#8230;.dollar oil commodity pricing.</p>
<p>To go forward from here and think we can reproduce what happened in the early 21st century in finance is to build another bubble and suffer its collapse which will be much worse than this one as all the past ones have been&#8230;.an escalation of loss.<br />
Something else must be visualized.</p>
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		<title>By: Tron</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/the-rich-are-taking-a-wailing/#comment-20808</link>
		<dc:creator>Tron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans can keep playing the bubble game only to the extent that other countries keep financing the american real economy (the real consumption).

The external (real) financing of the american (real) economy is not made of dollars, bonds or other recycled bits of financial-monetary paper. The real financing is made of arabian oil, japanese cars or chinese clothing.

Because the bubbles do not create wealth but americans need to continue to consume real goods, while blowing bubbles, the real foreing financing must keep flowing, in exponentially increasing amounts (the bubble game is a exponential game), to the USA to avoid the bubbles collapse (dollars or bonds can not be eaten nor wear, food or clothing can not be printed)

This external real funding has colapsed. No matter whether japanese and chinese buy more or less treasurys or other paper debt, they only exchange some bits paper (dollars) by other bits of paper (bonds). The real financing occurs when oil or other real good, with actual real economic value, is exchanged for freshly printed papers with no real value.The volume of this exchange has colapsed.

The magnitude that measures the real foreing financing, the magnitude to watch, is the trade deficit. American trade déficit has sunk. To blow bubbles is no more possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans can keep playing the bubble game only to the extent that other countries keep financing the american real economy (the real consumption).</p>
<p>The external (real) financing of the american (real) economy is not made of dollars, bonds or other recycled bits of financial-monetary paper. The real financing is made of arabian oil, japanese cars or chinese clothing.</p>
<p>Because the bubbles do not create wealth but americans need to continue to consume real goods, while blowing bubbles, the real foreing financing must keep flowing, in exponentially increasing amounts (the bubble game is a exponential game), to the USA to avoid the bubbles collapse (dollars or bonds can not be eaten nor wear, food or clothing can not be printed)</p>
<p>This external real funding has colapsed. No matter whether japanese and chinese buy more or less treasurys or other paper debt, they only exchange some bits paper (dollars) by other bits of paper (bonds). The real financing occurs when oil or other real good, with actual real economic value, is exchanged for freshly printed papers with no real value.The volume of this exchange has colapsed.</p>
<p>The magnitude that measures the real foreing financing, the magnitude to watch, is the trade deficit. American trade déficit has sunk. To blow bubbles is no more possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Brown Rice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brown Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could Over capacity ever replaced by fresh money?
Fresh money can easily make bubble like present.
Can this bubble regain capacity?
Result of jobless report show No.
Answer is here.
This additional credit bubble making a partial big money flow,
and simultaneously another bubble of destruction power .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could Over capacity ever replaced by fresh money?<br />
Fresh money can easily make bubble like present.<br />
Can this bubble regain capacity?<br />
Result of jobless report show No.<br />
Answer is here.<br />
This additional credit bubble making a partial big money flow,<br />
and simultaneously another bubble of destruction power .</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/the-rich-are-taking-a-wailing/#comment-20751</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nature of market is inmmorality. Nature of Capitalism is suck the blood &quot; 

&quot;It´s unfair when banks collapsed are rescued with public money! &quot; 

Hey bernardo, do you realize that banks being  saved by the gov&#039;t has nothing to do with real free-markets and real capitalism ? Actually, that&#039;s called fascism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nature of market is inmmorality. Nature of Capitalism is suck the blood &#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;It´s unfair when banks collapsed are rescued with public money! &#8221; </p>
<p>Hey bernardo, do you realize that banks being  saved by the gov&#8217;t has nothing to do with real free-markets and real capitalism ? Actually, that&#8217;s called fascism.</p>
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		<title>By: LAGirl</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/the-rich-are-taking-a-wailing/#comment-20724</link>
		<dc:creator>LAGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, there are rich people who made their money in ways that did not involve trading derivates.  Jeez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, there are rich people who made their money in ways that did not involve trading derivates.  Jeez.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/the-rich-are-taking-a-wailing/#comment-20723</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo, should read &quot;producing for the sake of producing, building for the sake of building&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo, should read &#8220;producing for the sake of producing, building for the sake of building&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/the-rich-are-taking-a-wailing/#comment-20722</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just spent the last week touring a key industrial province in China. They seem to be producing for the sack of producing, building for the sack of building. Everybody is focused on targets, not efficiencies, quality or demand. 

My feeling is that China is a big bubble that will burst badly. 

India looks more interesting to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just spent the last week touring a key industrial province in China. They seem to be producing for the sack of producing, building for the sack of building. Everybody is focused on targets, not efficiencies, quality or demand. </p>
<p>My feeling is that China is a big bubble that will burst badly. </p>
<p>India looks more interesting to me.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/the-rich-are-taking-a-wailing/#comment-20715</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Bill Bonner and &quot;historybuff&quot;!  I consider your points and wonder: Should I therefore teach my young sons &quot;to ride and fight... and little else&quot;?   The way things appear to be going China will be ripe for the picking in 15 years; just as the boys are in their prime.  Or should I teach them to work hard and produce and hope the Chinese competition will not be willing to work as hard in 15 years as they do today.  Or should I retreat to the mountains, buy enough land to leave them each a piece, and advise them to hide from the government and only shoot as a last resort... what a smorgasboard of options!  It does seem their lives will be harder than mine, as mine has been harder than my fathers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Bill Bonner and &#8220;historybuff&#8221;!  I consider your points and wonder: Should I therefore teach my young sons &#8220;to ride and fight&#8230; and little else&#8221;?   The way things appear to be going China will be ripe for the picking in 15 years; just as the boys are in their prime.  Or should I teach them to work hard and produce and hope the Chinese competition will not be willing to work as hard in 15 years as they do today.  Or should I retreat to the mountains, buy enough land to leave them each a piece, and advise them to hide from the government and only shoot as a last resort&#8230; what a smorgasboard of options!  It does seem their lives will be harder than mine, as mine has been harder than my fathers.</p>
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		<title>By: mark jordan</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/the-rich-are-taking-a-wailing/#comment-20708</link>
		<dc:creator>mark jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>personally, this is, to date, my favorite bill bonner diatribe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>personally, this is, to date, my favorite bill bonner diatribe</p>
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