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		<title>By: sharonsj</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/boomers-have-their-backs-against-the-wall/#comment-32210</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only those with money to burn look to places to stash it; that&#039;s why gold is going up and why foreigners are coming to the U.S. to buy real estate.  But 95% of Americans are too busy trying to stay alive.  They can&#039;t eat gold and they are losing their homes and jobs.  At this rate, we will have millions of angry desperate people no longer willing to just bitch and moan about being screwed, and those at the top need to run for cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only those with money to burn look to places to stash it; that&#8217;s why gold is going up and why foreigners are coming to the U.S. to buy real estate.  But 95% of Americans are too busy trying to stay alive.  They can&#8217;t eat gold and they are losing their homes and jobs.  At this rate, we will have millions of angry desperate people no longer willing to just bitch and moan about being screwed, and those at the top need to run for cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland Urban</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/boomers-have-their-backs-against-the-wall/#comment-32208</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Urban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the arguments I read here about how to explain the rise in gold price and other commodities and presumed inflation miss a critical item:

that most of these rises do occur more or less only if measured against the Dollar. Print the gold chart versus the Euro or the Yen and you will see that it changes much less. 

And when we talk about inflation, it is critical to distinguish between inflation which comes from &quot;real&quot; demand for certain goods (commodities) caused by increased production within an economy (a lift up in the supply-demand equation basically), or, as we face now, an artificial demand caused by an increase in available money. Increased &quot;Real demand&quot; slowly distributes the inflationary effects to the ultimate buyer (in our case the American consumer) by wage rises caused by labour shortage which leads to wage competition among companies. So the overall purchasing power effect is ideally zero over time.

With pure monetary induced commodity price inflation (more money chases practically the same amount of commodities, hence the price must go up), the outcome may be even a loss in purchasing power of the consumer, as ordinary people usually do not buy oil futures but are subject to higher prices at the gas station, hence, consume less. Wasn&#039;t the whole FED action designed to increase consumer spending? 

Furthermore: as those parts of the world with a clear mind (basically Asia and BRIC)are observing that America goes the wrong way, they are happy to sell their overpriced treasuries into the hands of the greedy American &quot;to big to fail&quot; banks, which those finance with 0,25% FED credit to pocket the interest spread. Guess how these big banks can produce such nice results as recently published. and all that money finds its way into overpriced commodity markets (and they are overpriced by all standards if you consider &quot;real economic demand&quot; in this globally recessionary environment).

When you are a Chinese central banker having more than 2 trillion $ in your reserves, knowing that you could not count on American consumers to take off chinese factory production for a long time, wouldn&#039;t it be prudent to sell off treasuries which pay a lousy interest rate and flip it over into commodities, which you could convert into product and either sell it in your home market or sell it oversees later?

Chinese central bankers must be loughing at Ben Bernanke, trying to bring light into a dark room by going outside with a bucket, holding it into the sunlight and then putting a cover on it, go back inside again and release the &quot;captured&quot; light into the dark room ...

I would not be surprised if all that extra cash, which is infused with force into the US banking system, shows up one by one in international commodities markets and the US stock markets. The first means that those Americans which should carry the recovery will get poorer and thus will contribute to the deflationary force, and the second means that US assets are sold out to foreigners. and if you see it from the perspective of foreign currency, the price increase is much less spectacular, as most is being paid by the decreased exchange rate.

either way, America is bankrupt, and it seems Zimbabwe central banking is around the corner ...

If I missed some rationale here, I&#039;d be delighted to be educated. there is one question I would really like to ask Ben Bernanke if I&#039;d had the chance to do so:

How, Mr. chairman, can you increase the purchasing power of the consumer, i.e. transfer wealth into his pocket?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the arguments I read here about how to explain the rise in gold price and other commodities and presumed inflation miss a critical item:</p>
<p>that most of these rises do occur more or less only if measured against the Dollar. Print the gold chart versus the Euro or the Yen and you will see that it changes much less. </p>
<p>And when we talk about inflation, it is critical to distinguish between inflation which comes from &#8220;real&#8221; demand for certain goods (commodities) caused by increased production within an economy (a lift up in the supply-demand equation basically), or, as we face now, an artificial demand caused by an increase in available money. Increased &#8220;Real demand&#8221; slowly distributes the inflationary effects to the ultimate buyer (in our case the American consumer) by wage rises caused by labour shortage which leads to wage competition among companies. So the overall purchasing power effect is ideally zero over time.</p>
<p>With pure monetary induced commodity price inflation (more money chases practically the same amount of commodities, hence the price must go up), the outcome may be even a loss in purchasing power of the consumer, as ordinary people usually do not buy oil futures but are subject to higher prices at the gas station, hence, consume less. Wasn&#8217;t the whole FED action designed to increase consumer spending? </p>
<p>Furthermore: as those parts of the world with a clear mind (basically Asia and BRIC)are observing that America goes the wrong way, they are happy to sell their overpriced treasuries into the hands of the greedy American &#8220;to big to fail&#8221; banks, which those finance with 0,25% FED credit to pocket the interest spread. Guess how these big banks can produce such nice results as recently published. and all that money finds its way into overpriced commodity markets (and they are overpriced by all standards if you consider &#8220;real economic demand&#8221; in this globally recessionary environment).</p>
<p>When you are a Chinese central banker having more than 2 trillion $ in your reserves, knowing that you could not count on American consumers to take off chinese factory production for a long time, wouldn&#8217;t it be prudent to sell off treasuries which pay a lousy interest rate and flip it over into commodities, which you could convert into product and either sell it in your home market or sell it oversees later?</p>
<p>Chinese central bankers must be loughing at Ben Bernanke, trying to bring light into a dark room by going outside with a bucket, holding it into the sunlight and then putting a cover on it, go back inside again and release the &#8220;captured&#8221; light into the dark room &#8230;</p>
<p>I would not be surprised if all that extra cash, which is infused with force into the US banking system, shows up one by one in international commodities markets and the US stock markets. The first means that those Americans which should carry the recovery will get poorer and thus will contribute to the deflationary force, and the second means that US assets are sold out to foreigners. and if you see it from the perspective of foreign currency, the price increase is much less spectacular, as most is being paid by the decreased exchange rate.</p>
<p>either way, America is bankrupt, and it seems Zimbabwe central banking is around the corner &#8230;</p>
<p>If I missed some rationale here, I&#8217;d be delighted to be educated. there is one question I would really like to ask Ben Bernanke if I&#8217;d had the chance to do so:</p>
<p>How, Mr. chairman, can you increase the purchasing power of the consumer, i.e. transfer wealth into his pocket?</p>
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		<title>By: sierra</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/boomers-have-their-backs-against-the-wall/#comment-32204</link>
		<dc:creator>sierra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a good question to ask is: &quot;What do we manufacture that China needs now and in the near future, say a generation?&quot;

That is what will &quot;rule&quot; the financial world to come.....

China has the population capacity to drown the world in consumer products (junk)....such &quot;competitiveness&quot; will bring third world status (like now, here) to much of the rest of the world. 

As far as &quot;bubbles&quot; go, I believe the stock market is building a &quot;trading&quot; bubble; ie., attempting to &quot;trade&quot; their way out of the financial mess that has been created since the early &#039;90&#039;s.......

Governments must do what the people cannot do for themselves, in this case protect them from the more horrible vagaries (brutalities) of the power of predatory capital. (Roaming the world scott free)

The dollar is now doomed as the &quot;oil currency of first resort.&quot; 

That is the beginning of the end of the dollar.  It will just be like a roll of toilet paper....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a good question to ask is: &#8220;What do we manufacture that China needs now and in the near future, say a generation?&#8221;</p>
<p>That is what will &#8220;rule&#8221; the financial world to come&#8230;..</p>
<p>China has the population capacity to drown the world in consumer products (junk)&#8230;.such &#8220;competitiveness&#8221; will bring third world status (like now, here) to much of the rest of the world. </p>
<p>As far as &#8220;bubbles&#8221; go, I believe the stock market is building a &#8220;trading&#8221; bubble; ie., attempting to &#8220;trade&#8221; their way out of the financial mess that has been created since the early &#8217;90&#8242;s&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Governments must do what the people cannot do for themselves, in this case protect them from the more horrible vagaries (brutalities) of the power of predatory capital. (Roaming the world scott free)</p>
<p>The dollar is now doomed as the &#8220;oil currency of first resort.&#8221; </p>
<p>That is the beginning of the end of the dollar.  It will just be like a roll of toilet paper&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: LAGirl</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/boomers-have-their-backs-against-the-wall/#comment-32198</link>
		<dc:creator>LAGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is Mr. Mogambo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is Mr. Mogambo?</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Sirloin</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/boomers-have-their-backs-against-the-wall/#comment-32196</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Sirloin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone really know why they buy anything?  No one can see the future.  You get &quot;impressions&quot; really from what you see and read.  You choose one side over the other.

There can be no doubt that the removal of the dollar from reserve currency status has alot to do with it, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone really know why they buy anything?  No one can see the future.  You get &#8220;impressions&#8221; really from what you see and read.  You choose one side over the other.</p>
<p>There can be no doubt that the removal of the dollar from reserve currency status has alot to do with it, however.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/boomers-have-their-backs-against-the-wall/#comment-32195</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no telling what will happen with the fraudulent accounting the banks are now using; instead of foreclosing, they allow tons of delinquent mortgages on their books as assets. Meanwhile, my newspaper is reporting 30,000 jobs &quot;saved or created&quot; by the stimulus--this is a far cry from Obama&#039;s statement of one million jobs saved or created.  What&#039;s going on here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no telling what will happen with the fraudulent accounting the banks are now using; instead of foreclosing, they allow tons of delinquent mortgages on their books as assets. Meanwhile, my newspaper is reporting 30,000 jobs &#8220;saved or created&#8221; by the stimulus&#8211;this is a far cry from Obama&#8217;s statement of one million jobs saved or created.  What&#8217;s going on here?</p>
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		<title>By: Combat Spoon</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/boomers-have-their-backs-against-the-wall/#comment-32148</link>
		<dc:creator>Combat Spoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m buying gold because as the Mogambo Guru says &quot;we&#039;re freakin doomed!&quot;. There&#039;s no telling what lies at the end of these pump and dump schemes of government healthcare, cap and trade, nationalizations of our industries and various bailouts. Good ship America might be the Titanic and I want to make sure there&#039; a life raft for my family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m buying gold because as the Mogambo Guru says &#8220;we&#8217;re freakin doomed!&#8221;. There&#8217;s no telling what lies at the end of these pump and dump schemes of government healthcare, cap and trade, nationalizations of our industries and various bailouts. Good ship America might be the Titanic and I want to make sure there&#8217; a life raft for my family.</p>
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		<title>By: InvestorsFriend</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/boomers-have-their-backs-against-the-wall/#comment-32142</link>
		<dc:creator>InvestorsFriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Alberta, which has been Canada&#039;s land of milk and honey the following has happened...

Budget surplus amounts of $5 billion in the fiscal year ended March 2008 is projected to fall to a deficit of about $7 billion for March 2010. 

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20080624/EDM_surplus_080624/20080624/?hub=EdmontonHome


In 2008 it would have been a higher surplus except for special spending initiatives.

A while ago the government announced no bonuses for government employees next Spring and a hiring freeze. Just today they annnounced a pay freeze for the next two years... and so it begins.

Alberta is heavily dependent on royalties from Natural Gas, but with low natural gas prices those have shriveled up to almost nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Alberta, which has been Canada&#8217;s land of milk and honey the following has happened&#8230;</p>
<p>Budget surplus amounts of $5 billion in the fiscal year ended March 2008 is projected to fall to a deficit of about $7 billion for March 2010. </p>
<p><a href="http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20080624/EDM_surplus_080624/20080624/?hub=EdmontonHome" rel="nofollow">http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20080624/EDM_surplus_080624/20080624/?hub=EdmontonHome</a></p>
<p>In 2008 it would have been a higher surplus except for special spending initiatives.</p>
<p>A while ago the government announced no bonuses for government employees next Spring and a hiring freeze. Just today they annnounced a pay freeze for the next two years&#8230; and so it begins.</p>
<p>Alberta is heavily dependent on royalties from Natural Gas, but with low natural gas prices those have shriveled up to almost nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Drill bit</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/boomers-have-their-backs-against-the-wall/#comment-32077</link>
		<dc:creator>Drill bit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are buying gold because a currency failure or devaluation is highly inflationary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are buying gold because a currency failure or devaluation is highly inflationary</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://dailyreckoning.com/boomers-have-their-backs-against-the-wall/#comment-32064</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read the atimes article above.  It seems first we had the dot com bubble; then the housing bubble; then the crude oil bubble; then the other commodities bubble(golly, why was there a rice shortage?  see atimes article) now we have a gold bubble; sooner or later investors will figure out that gold is not &quot;real money&quot; either and that bubble will bust; I&#039;ll bet, sooner or later also investors will create a food bubble; I also bet sooner or later you all will figure out that the quantity theory of money has been completely and thoroughly discredited; V is not constant; the Fed cannot control purchasing power (not lately anyway) so, there will be no inflation until the central banks around the world start increasing interest cost.  they can see inflatiton in the offing like Friedmand did in the late sixties; they will increase interest rates (costs?) and cause inflation again; have you all ever noticed there is never inflation without first increasing some cost, either energy, labor or interest.
Bye

BB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the atimes article above.  It seems first we had the dot com bubble; then the housing bubble; then the crude oil bubble; then the other commodities bubble(golly, why was there a rice shortage?  see atimes article) now we have a gold bubble; sooner or later investors will figure out that gold is not &#8220;real money&#8221; either and that bubble will bust; I&#8217;ll bet, sooner or later also investors will create a food bubble; I also bet sooner or later you all will figure out that the quantity theory of money has been completely and thoroughly discredited; V is not constant; the Fed cannot control purchasing power (not lately anyway) so, there will be no inflation until the central banks around the world start increasing interest cost.  they can see inflatiton in the offing like Friedmand did in the late sixties; they will increase interest rates (costs?) and cause inflation again; have you all ever noticed there is never inflation without first increasing some cost, either energy, labor or interest.<br />
Bye</p>
<p>BB</p>
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